Brew, Donnellan, Purcell, West Clare 1888

[smcarberry]

The John Donnellan mentioned in the below item is not included in NLI Ms. 467, which has been the primary pedigree available for the Donnellan family (which fortunately includes my line of East Clare). There is no Brew intermarriage on that chart.

From a quick review of recent Michael Brew items, it seems that this reference to a Michael deceased as of 1888 means that this man is distinct from Michael S. Brew known to be living in Ballyerra House in 1887. Any correction or clarification accepted on that. It appears that a Brew in Tadmore House is not the same as ones already discussed on this Forum. The NUI Galway database of Landed Estates has nothing on a Tadmore property. I don't have access to Weir's Houses of Clare at the moment, so I would be interested to know about any reference there.

The link to the news item may not work. I am aware of that but show it for purposes of attribution. If you Google various terms from the article, you should be able to reach the indicated webpage.

posted by Sharon Carberry


"Irish-American" Newspaper
Week ending August 18 1888
July 19, at St. John's Cathedral, Limerick, Thomas, second son of the late Thomas CUDDY, Buckfield, Roscommon, to Annie Frances, eldest daughter of the late John DONNELLAN, Miltownmalbay, county Clare, granddaughter of the late Michael BREW, Tadmore House, Kilrush, and widow of the late Thomas PURCELL, Limerick
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... rish/IRISH MARRIAGES1888-1889.html

[Lucille]

There is no Tadmore House in Weir, but could it be 'Leadmore' House as previously discussed - which is a reasonable mis-transcription. Brew is mentioned here in 1855. In Slater's Directory of 1846 there is a Michael Brew, Leadmore, and a Wm. Brew, Leadmore House, both Esq. listed as Gentry in the Kilrush section. I think these have already been listed by Paddy.

Lucille

[pwaldron]

This link should work better than Sharon's above - spaces in URLs and filenames should be avoided at all costs!

Tadmore is indeed a mistranscription of Leadmore. I visited Leadmore House recently and it is in a very sad state of near collapse.

Back in September, I posted about The many Michael Brews of Kilrush ...

Since then I have made some progress in distinguishing between the five Michael Brews who occupied houses in Kilrush parish in Griffith's Valuation:

Michael Brew (Thos.) of Carnaun was married to Catherine Pilkington and emigrated to Adelaide, South Australia, where he was buried on 24 Dec 1876, aged 81.

Michael Brew (Wm.) of Carnaun was married to Jane Greene and died on 21 Aug 1877 at Carnaun/Carnanes, aged 70.

Michael Brew of Carrowncalla South was married to another Catherine, but I have not found her maiden name or any date of death for either of them.

Michael Brew of Toler Street, the weighmaster, was married first on 20 Apr 1847 to Honora Brew (d. 6 Sep 1851) and second on 8 Feb 1853 to Anne Scott. He died 20 Sep 1894 in Toler Street.

Michael Brew of Leadmore West was the same person as Michael Brew (Boucher). He was married on 15 May 1808 to Eleanor Brew and they were the parents of Michael of Toler Street. Michael of Leadmore West died on 14 Nov 1874 aged 84 at Vandeleur Road, Kilrush, having survived an assassination attempt in 1846. He was the father of the Anne Brew christened on 30 Apr 1830 and married on 21 Apr 1851 to John Donnellan, mentioned in the marriage notice above.

Michael Studdert Brew or Brews of Ballyurra House (chr. 7 Dec 1838, d. 26 Apr 1916) was too young to be listed as an occupier in Griffith; he was a nephew of Michael Brew (Boucher) and a first cousin of Michael Brew the weighmaster.

As Michael (Thos.), Michael (Wm.) and Michael (Boucher) were all of similar age, I can't help wondering whether two or all three of them may have been first cousins named after a common grandfather.

[smcarberry]

Paddy, it has been my understanding that the Michael C. Brew who died at age 75 on 18 Apr 1880 at "Carnacalla" as reported in the Irish American Weekly newspaper that I posted in a pdf file numbered 2 at http://www.ourlibrary.ca/phpbb2/viewtop ... hilit=brew is the one you need for Carrownacalla. I realize the complexity of your task, but let me know if I need to adjust my thinking on that.

S.C.

[pwaldron]

I can understand why one might jump to that conclusion, Sharon, but there are still some doubts in my mind!

Michael and Catherine Brew of Carnacalla have one child that I know of, Maria, baptised into the Anglican church in 1846. I am pretty sure that she is the Maria Brew of Kilrush, daughter of Michael, who married Edward Hannan in the Anglican church in Kilrush in 1868. Her age in the 1901 census (54) and when she died in 1906Q2 (58) is out by only one or two years.

Michael C. Brew of Carnacalla who died in 1880 appears to have been Catholic; I suspect that he was father of three Catholic children:

• Michael (deaf and dumb), aged 50 in 1901 in Carrowncalla South and aged 68 in 1911 in Vandeleur Street
• Richard, aged 55 in 1901 in Carrowncalla South, died in 1906.
• Mary, aged 45 in 1901 and 60 in 1911 in Vandeleur Street.

I need to check the Catholic baptismal register to find the baptisms of these three. My hunch is that a Catholic Michael C. Brew somehow acquired the farm in Carrownacalla South of an Anglican Michael Brew, but that they may have been brothers-in-law.

As if matters were not complicated enough, it also appears that the boundary between Carnaun/Carnanes and Carrowncalla/Carnacalla may not have been fixed! For example, there is a tombstone inscription suggesting that Michl. Brew and Mary Collins lived in Carnanes:

Erected by Brew, both in memory of their father Micki Brew of Carnanes who depd this life Feb 7th 1831 aged 68 yrs. Also in memory of their mother Mary Brew alias Collins who died Janry 18th 1847 aged 74 years. May they R.I.P. Amen.
(Location: South West Section)

They were surely the parents of Richard Collins Brew:

BREW Richard Collins [111] 28 June [1904] Probate of the Will of Richard Collins Brew late of Vandeleur-street Kilrush
County Clare Shopkeeper who died 12 March 1904 granted at Limerick to Mary Brew Spinster. Effects £ 365

But, in the 1901 census, Richard says he was born in Carnucalla:

(1901 - house 30 in Vandeleur Street (Kilrush Urban, Clare)) Brew Richard C 85 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Carnucalla, Co Clare Shop Keeper Read and write Irish and English Not Married -

I should probably also just order all the Michael Brew death certs for Kilrush as there are several that I have not accounted for.

Then there's the man that seems to be enumerated twice with his wife and daughter in 1901, once as George and once as Michael:

(1901 - house 3 in Clooneylissane (Kilrush, Clare)) Brew Michael 45 Male Son Catholic Co Clare Farmer Son Read and write - Married -

(1901 - house 178 in Kilkee (Albert Road & Dough) (Kilkee, Clare)) Brew George 47 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Church Co Clare Grocer Read and write - Married -

[smcarberry]

Ah, there you have it - a real Irish gen. conundrum with the same pool of first names being used by families belonging to different religions while residing in the same small area in a time period when records are scanty. I can't as yet directly shed any light on the Michael and Catherine Brew family of Carrownacalla/Carnacalla thought to be Catholic. However, I did pick up one small bit of information on the other RC Brew family you discussed as being in Clooneylissaun, which I see is on the other side of the water from Carnacalla, Carnane, Leadmore, etc. However, to better define this one RC Brew cluster and thus possibly help with the Carnacalla family, I can show that Michael the farmer aged 45 in his mother Bidelia's household in 1901 may well be the Michael evicted in 1899 from Clooneylissaun property: http://tinyurl.com/ppgaex6 With an eviction so recent, I think it is doubtful that he also appears as the grocer George in Kilkee in 1901 (names of the wives and daughters being coincidentally the same). However, have you considered that Michael's mother Bidelia is the wife of the GV-listed George whose will appears in the Limerick will book of 1883-1888, in which Michael is described as the youngest son and the four daughters includes a Kate and Bidilia ?

You presented such a clear outline of the various Michaels, so I know that you likely have lots more details on each. Just to be sure, though, that you have Michael of Carnaun and West Adelaide as Anglican, I am showing his wife's Catherine's 1890 death item showing her residence as Victoria Park, the same as shown for her son Thomas (who died at age 65 in 1903) upon the marriage of his daughter in 1894 in St. James Church, which is Anglican.

However, it is a family chart for Francis Brew of Leadmore which has me wondering how committed these Brew families were to their congregations, in view of his son Francis marrying in St. Senan's which is RC. That chart appears online at
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hilaryr/html/notes.html

In any case, this is an enlightening view into the dynamics of a West Clare family. It will help me as I wade through details on other West Clare families.

Sharon

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[pwaldron]

Do you really want to get involved in this little hornet's nest of Brews, Sharon?

Where do I start?

1. I mentioned the Michael and Catherine Brew of Carnacalla whom I believe to have been Anglicans.

I don't want to speculate yet about the name of the wife of Michael C. Brew of Carnacalla whom I believe to have been Catholic.

2. Your tinyurl is showing only a tiny snippet view of the eviction details, so I cannot comment on that one.

3. In 1901, the household of George Brew of Kilkee includes his sister-in-law Agnes Crowley. There is a 1971 Crowley pedigree at
https://www.facebook.com/download/15243 ... r1%202.pdf and I have hard copy of a 1979 revision of this pedigree.

The 1971 version of the Crowley pedigree has just `Mrs. Brew' on page (1) under Michael.

The 1979 version of the Crowley pedigree expands this to `Bridget Crowley: Married George Brew, Farmer, Killimer. Children: George (U.S.A.); Joe, Teresa (home farm).'

Combining this information with the 1901 census returns for Clooneylissane and Kilkee; the 1911 census return for Clooneylissaun; and the absence of any other return for George and Bridget, I find it hard to avoid the conclusion that this family were enumerated twice in 1901.

4. My time taking notes from the Limerick Will Books many years ago is still paying off! I'm still not sure whether this is the George sen. or George jun. of Clooneylissaun in Griffith:

Calendar of Wills and Admons. 1887
`BREW George
[59] Effects £ 219.
30 July. Letters of Administration (with the Will
annexed) of the personal estate of George Brew late of
Clooneylissane County Clare Farmer who died 7 February
1882 at same place were granted at Limerick to Bidelia
Brew of Clooneylissane Widow the Residuary Legatee.'

(Will Calendars for 1858-1920 went online on the National Archives website a couple of weeks ago.)

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 about George Brew
Name: George Brew
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1882
Death Age: 87
Registration District: Kilrush
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 4
Page: 241
FHL Film Number: 101591

5. You are probably correct that Catherine Brew of Victoria Park and Thomas Brew of Victoria Park were mother and son, although my notes from the Kilrush baptismal register don't include a Thomas in this family and I haven't seen any definitive proof of this relationship. I've sent off for Thomas's marriage record which will hopefully confirm this. In all my searches of the Australian newspapers, I missed the Pilkington-Brew marriage notice, so am very grateful to you for bringing it to my attention.

6. Both the Catholic and Anglican churches in Kilrush are named after St. Senan!

7. I recognise your chart as the work of Hugh Milne and Mary Brew and not of Ray Kelly to whose site you attribute it. Note, as Katrina Vincent has pointed out elsewhere, that the chart wrongly shows Anne Pilkington (wife of Burton Brew) as daughter of Richard Pilkington and Maria Blood. I believe that this Anne was most likely the daughter of William Pilkington and Jane O'Donnell, or possibly the daughter of John Pilkington and Jane Williams (and would appreciate confirmation of either conjecture).

8. If you check the 1901 and 1911 census returns for Francis Brew who married his namesake Bridget Brew in 1901, you will find that he was orginally Church of Ireland but became Catholic to facilitate his marriage!

\pw

[smcarberry]

Paddy,

If my bits of data can serve the purpose of separating out the many Michael Brew families, so much the better, although I will not try to do more than dabble in this endeavor. Perhaps someday I may have to call on your insights to help separate out the many Michael Donnellan mentions that pertain to Kilkishen and environs. Blissfully, all those Michaels were RC but the Donnellan chart, Ms. 467, stops at about 1800 for that area and church records are preserved from only 1835 onward. Looking at my notes, I see that Ray T. Kelly does have his materials online at the link with "hilary" in it, but that is where I saw the Brew chart. Ray is one of my distant cousins based on his being a descendant of Michael Donnellan b. 1855 in Kilkishen. I haven't talked to him directly to confirm that, although he lives a mere 25 miles away from me. However, you I have met and I know you are active in genealogy, while I have no idea what Ray is doing these days.

While reviewing the 1842 Ordnance Survey map on the library site, I saw more than one RC chapel out beyond Kilrush, usually at a crossroads. Would baptisms and marriages of the early to mid 1800s from those chapels be included in St. Senan's records of Kilrush ?
Thanks for the tip on the Anglican church in Kilrush also being St. Senan's.

For the RC Brew family in Clooneylissaun, I might prompt some useful thinking on those Brews' connection with the Madigan family of Leadmore:
22 Feb 1877
"Mr. Patrick Brew, eldest son of George Brew Esq, Clooneylissane to Mary only surviving daughter of Mr. Mathew Madigan, Leadmore, Kilrush."
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... iages2.htm

Declan Barron is the source of this older connection between the families:
9 Feb 1834
Francis Brew of Kilrush, married at her father's house in Leadmore to Mary Madigan Daughter of John Madigan.

You are probably aware that Mathew and Thomas Madigan are buried in the Church of Ireland graveyard. Thomas was a good friend of Eugene O'Curry, which prompts the thought that it would be so helpful to have his comments on all the goings on between these families in his part of West Clare.
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... ptions.htm
Thomas Madigan of Carnacalla, Eugene O'Curry's friend
Proceedings of the Royal Irish Academy http://tinyurl.com/prqqwg8
also see: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... onaha.htm‎

The Michael Brew 1899 eviction link went to a small view of the page holding the second half of the data for that event. If you click on the blue p. 33, it opens up to the entire page and then you can scroll back to p. 32, which has the view shown below.

S.C.

P. 32

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[pwaldron]

Thanks for all those new insights, Sharon.

Ray Kelly's live family tree is in a private ancestry.com database. He has lost contact with the person who posted the "hilaryr" version for him many years ago and is unable to correct the many errors that he has since discovered in that early version. I heard recently that he may have moved from Georgia to Utah, so you may have missed your chance to meet him!

I have posted some information on the Catholic parishes in Kilrush Poor Law Union at
http://kdhs.ie/?page_id=389
As you will see there, Kilrush and Killimer parishes were separated in 1848. Killimer records from 1827-1848 will be found in the Kilrush registers; those for 1848-1859 have not survived; and those from 1859 to date are in the separate Killimer registers.

As can be seen from the parish listing at
http://www.killaloediocese.ie/parishes/ ... y-a-z.html
the present Killimer parish has churches at Killimer and Knockerra and the present Kilrush parish has churches at Kilrush and Monmore.

This time I was able to use JSTOR to expand on the snippet view in your new Google Books reference to Proc.R.I.A.!

By coincidence, Thomas Madigan is someone in whom I have been taking a great interest in recent weeks. His composition `Lone Shanakyle', beautifully sung by his descendant Assumpta Kennedy, became the anthem of the recent National Famine Commemoration in Kilrush. Another branch of the Madigan family of Carnacalla funded the Famine memorial cross in Old Shanakyle Cemetery, which was cleaned and restored as part of the Commemoration. Indeed, there was a large turnout of Carnacalla Madigan descendants at practically every event during the ten day Commemoration.

Your original Google books link does not allow me to click through to the full page image as "Page 33" is not hyperlinked for me; Google must be allowing different levels of access to people in different parts of the Internet!

By the way, I've revised my thinking on the children of Michael and Catherine Brew and am again leaning towards there having been only one couple of this name. In my notes, I found a baptism of Catherine, daughter of Michael and Catherine of Carnacalla (b. 31 Aug 1843, chr. 4 Sep 1843 Kilrush C Of I). I also found multiple second anniversary newspaper notices at
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49372975
for this Catherine, who went to Australia and married twice, first in 1866 to Thomas Burns and second in 1877 to her namesake and fellow Clareman Jonathan Brew (from Newtown). So now I'm wondering if the clergyman in Kilrush started referring to Michael Brew (Thos.) as Michael of Carnacalla merely to distinguish him from Michael Brew (Wm.), although Michael (Thos.) may always have lived just on the Carnaun side of the townland boundary. Alternatively, he may have moved across the townland boundary for a few years in the 1840s, and moved back again in time for Griffith's Valuation in 1855!

\pw

[smcarberry]

Agnes with husband James Fitzgerald and son Gerald, 1940.

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Agnes B. (Bridget ?) Brew, 1930

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Widow Delia nee Crowley and sole child Agnes, 1910.

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I spent an intensive night yesterday, trying to focus on just the RC Brew families of Clooneylissaun and Carrownacalla, despite tempting individuals incoming into the U.S. in all decades of the 1800s and early 1900s. I am not a night owl and my major source of NYS newspaper items (Old Fulton Postcards) is not magnifying correctly anymore, so this is necessarily sketchy and likely faulty to some degree. However, I think I have the outlines of a way to approach these families, and, Paddy, you are so right about the Crowley connection. A Crowley descendant has done research (no research sources viewed last night) that shows more than one intermarriage of the daughters of Thomas Crowley, with these particular Brew men. One was George the grocer, and the other was Richard. George must have died in 1901, because that is the year that widow Delia immigrated to NYC, with daughter Agnes following in 1903 (not in the Ellis Island database).

I am showing Delia and Agnes on Long Island (North Hempstead, Nassau Co.) in 1910, and thereafter Delia must have died, so that in 1920 Agnes was staying with relatives in the Bronx (which became a stronghold of Carrownacalla Brew immigrants), then on her own in Manhattan (1930) before her eventual marriage to James Fitzgerald and relocation to Brooklyn, where researcher Joseph Crowley places this line. Here is the briefest view of his work:

Kilmihil Crowleys, Compiled and Researched by Joseph Crowley
http://www.familyhistorians.net/genealo ... 008&tree=2
[Wife of Richard Brew]
"Johanna: Married Brew (Farmer) Carnacalla, Kilrush, Children Michael, George, Richard, Mary E., Delia, Elizabeth and Thomas. Michael took over the Home Farm. All others emigrated to America. Johanna Died 1926."

[Wife of ___ Brew] b. 29 Nov 1865
"Bridget: Emigrated to America. Married Brew. Lived in Brooklyn, N.Y. one child Agnes who married Fitzgerald."

Agnes b. 1884, stayed single, lived in Kilkiee, died in Clare [my phrasing].

I have room only for three attachments with this posting, so I will do a separate reply posting on the Richard Brew/Johannah Crowley family. I will then do yet another reply posting with some observations of the Michael Brew/Bridget __ family, for which I have indications of two different possible Bridgets. I am hoping to further define that immigrant group with a different NYS newspaper source, new to me, which I will announce in an entirely separate posting.

Then I will have to stop this dabbling so I can attend to real-life matters and ensure that I not lose my sanity.

Sharon

[smcarberry]

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Richard Brew and Johanna Crowley family of Carrownacalla/Carnacalla

This explanation will take two postings so that I can show all screenshots. First, there is the family in 1901, with sons George b.c. 1889 and Richard b.c. 1894, whose U.S. Army draft cards show their residence in what would shortly become its own borough (county) of New York City, the Bronx (shown as part of New York County until the 1920 census). The Bronx was the place where their cousin Patrick J. Chambers lived, as a single man from 1900 through about 1920, at which point he disappears, maybe returning to Clare. P.J. lived at first in streets numbered in the 130s (132nd St, 136th St) and later in the 170's, just like his Brew cousins did.

I am unsure at this point whether there are one or two men named George Brew who lived in the Bronx. The Army card is for George F. b.c. 1889 and I have a family headed by George M. b.c. 1901 later in the Bronx. I have an Ellis Island arrival on several occasions for a George b.c. 1901, even while he was supposed to be married and residing with his family in Clare. I also have that George b.c. 1901 with his first children born in England. That George has to be better defined but he seems to be showing a link between the Carrownacalla RC family and his own, of Clooneylissaun.

[smcarberry]

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George M. Brew of the Bronx, apparently the son of Michael and Bridget, Clooneylissaun

[smcarberry]

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Patrick Brew and Mary __ family of Buffalo NY

This is the family which got me started on looking at the U.S. for Patrick Brew shown in a Clare newspaper article as having married Mary Madigan. That Patrick is from the Clooneylissaun line, and the Buffalo records do show the Patrick/Mary Brew family as RC parishioners. However, I can find nothing definitive on his wife Mary for her maiden name. I do know Mary died in 1913, and Patrick died of a massive heart attack at his desk in 1915. After the 1920 census his son George disappears but the other children (Theresa, Josephine, and Matthew) remained, unmarried, in Buffalo per the 1930 and 1940 censuses. I have to wonder if the name Matthew came into this Brew family from the mother's side, in view of Matthew Madigan being in an older generation in Carnacalla.

I will continue to try to work on this family, when I can. Part of my own family spent time in the early 1900s in Buffalo, so I know the area.

Sharon

[smcarberry]

George of Clooneylissaun, apparent son of Michael and Bridget

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George age 20, son of Patrick and Mary of Buffalo, incoming when only his younger brother Mat was in NY

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Records on two George Brew cousins, incoming into the U.S.

Note: apparently I can't go back and edit my comment on there being two Bridget Brew candidates for the wife of Michael of Clooneylissaun (mother of George b.c. 1901). That was a misstatement, as I meant to describe there being two candidates for the wife of Patrick Brew of Buffalo, the apparent brother of Michael since both men are described as being of Clooneylissaun.

I should also add this old posting on immigrant George (I am assuming she means the Bronx one) as son of Michael with wife Bridget Crowley, from a descendant whose hotmail address is now obsolete:
MY GRANDFATHER'S NAME WAS GEORGE BREW. HE WAS BORN IN KILRUSH, COUNTY CLARE IN THE EARLY 1900'S. HIS FATHER WAS MICHAEL BREW WHO MARRIED BRIGET CROWLEY. HIS LAST TRIP TO IRELAND WAS IN THE 1960'S. I WONDER HAVE YOU HEARD OF HIM? HE PASSED AWAY IN 1981.
Mary '01

Another descendant has this posting on the Rootsweb World Connect (my paraphrasing):
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin ... =I31842277
Michael Brew, Kilrush
George b. 4 Sep 1902 Kilrush, married, 1 three children born Kilrush: "living," Margaret, & Michael

Finally, my thought when I saw this burial is that perhaps this is George M. Brew's younger brother Joseph, who had a Madigan as his bride:
New Burrane Cemetery, Killimer
Martin Madigan, Clune House died 17th June 1954 (Marian Year) aged 57 years his wife Teresa died 30 July 1966 aged 67 Joseph Brew aged 60 died 29 April 1964 Erected by his wife Teresa MADIGAN

[mgallery]

Paddy

You really should drop in and talk to John Daly. He is in his late 70s and lives beside Kilmurry Ibricken cemetary (his family have a bb there and he was born in the pub, now closed).

he told me he was researching brews. I dont think he is online but may well have local knowledge to clear up some conundrums

And yes I have been talking to Ray Kelly about my kelly relatives. He lives in Utah

Margaret