The many Michael Brews of Kilrush ...

[pwaldron]

In Kilrush parish in Griffith's Valuation (20 Aug 1855), there are 21 entries for Michael Brew, 7 as occupier, including 5 as occupier of houses, and 14 as immediate lessor. These entries presumably referred to at least five different individuals (presuming that none of the five occupied more than one house), so various identifiers were required to distinguish between them. Two of these identifiers, namely "Boucher" and "Slug", beg to be researched further! All explanations welcome ...

Michael Brew (Thos.) occupied house (Rateable annual valuation 25 shillings) and land in Carnaun.
Michael Brew (Wm.) occupied house (Rateable annual valuation 25 shillings) and land in Carnaun [chr. 17 Jun 1807 s. of William Brew of Carnanes & his wife].
plain Michael Brew occupied house (Rateable annual valuation 15 shillings) and land in Carrowncalla South.
plain Michael Brew occupied house, office and yard (Rateable annual valuation 10 pounds) in Toler Street [This must be Michael Brew the weighmaster, m. 8 Feb 1853, d. Sep 1894 aged 81].
plain Michael Brew occupied house (Rateable annual valuation 3 pounds 10 shillings) and land in Leadmore West [Probably the Michael Brew jun. of Leadmore who had numerous children by two wives christened between 1805 and 1833].
Plain Michael Brew occupied land only in Ballyurra.
Plain Michael Brew occupied land only in Thomastown.

[Both Michael of Leadmore and Michael of Toler Street were described in earlier records as Michael jun.]

Michael Brew (Boucher) was immediate lessor to:
Michael Roughan at 16 Market Square
William Bunce at 84 Moore Street
Anne Payne at 85 Moore Street and 3 Malt-House Lane
Pierce Wallace at 4 Malt-House Lane
Mary Gamble at 5 Malt-House Lane
a ruin at 6 Malt-House Lane
George Quilty at 7 Malt-House Lane

Michael Brew (Leadmore) was immediate lessor to:
James Behan at 103 Moore Street
John O'Dwyer, jun., at 104 Moore Street
Sinon Breen at 105 Moore Street

Michael Brew (Slug) was immediate lessor to:
Mary Boland at 43 Henry Street
Michael Walsh at 44 Henry Street.

plain Michael Brew was immediate lessor of an unoccupied house at 1 Chapel Street

[smcarberry]

So, Paddy, which one is the one you are pursuing ? Or maybe you are taking time to note this scenario so that the general group of Clare family historians is aware of the situation. Without knowing which is your aim, I (as a typical reader) am left uncertain on what I should do. I happen to have just yesterday passed by an online article on Thomas Brew of Leadmore. Even though I am East Clare in orientation, I have been assisting others with ancestors from this very parish, so I will be seeing more potentially useful articles and databases.

Sharon Carberry

[pwaldron]

Hi Sharon

I think I am pursing all five of them (plus any Michael Brew who had died before Griffith, plus those not old enough to have been head of household in Griffith, plus those who changed the surname to Brews!). My research philosophy in cases like this is to pick up any piece of information about any Michael Brew, and decide which one or more of the group it could refer to, and to keep reviewing those pieces of information which could refer to more than one.

I am particularly interested in the Michael Brew whose name appears on the civil certificate of the second marriage of his son James Brew (d. 29 Sep 1849 aged 60, m.1826 & 1846), but he is likely to have been dead long before Griffith. I would also like to prove that this James Brew is the James whose son Michael James Brew m. Catherine O'Donnell on 14 Feb 1855.

I am also interested in Michael Brew (1814-1851) of Parknamona, son of George and Hetty and father of Mrs Ellen Nix, but he was dead before Griffith.

Also in Michael Brew of Leadmore, father of Mary who m. John Corneal/Corneille on 16 Feb 1831.

Also in Michael Brew of Carrownacalla, father of Maria who m. Edward Hannan on 7 May 1868.

And in this notice from
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... 3_1900.htm
The Advertiser (Adelaide, SA : 1889 - 1931) Saturday 15 November 1890 p 4 Family Notices
BREW.—On the 8th November at her residence, Victoria Park, Catherine, relict of the late Michael Brew, sen., in her 83rd year, native of Kilrush, county Clare, Ireland. Home papers please copy.

I would also like to prove how the Peter Scott whose daughter Jessie Anne m. Joshua Dowling in 1883 Q4 is related to the Peter Scott whose daughter Anne m. Michael Brew the weighmaster on 8 Feb 1853.

\pw

[smcarberry]

Very good, I now have your menu of choice and will be able to refer back to it as I encounter articles. If you can link any unusual given names to these Brew families, please also post that. I use a lot of mega-search engines which provide handy results for unique words. "Brew" alone is not a good word with those. In terms of West Clare given names, here are the ones that I like to use: Anthony, Simon, Terrence, Richard, Robert, Francis, Lawrence, Stephen, Darby, and Bernard.

S.C.

[pwaldron]

Thanks, Sharon. I've also sent you an e-mail with more background information.

[pj.culligan]

Hello Paddy, I sent you a PM, it said it was sent successfully but it appears to be stuck in my outbox and not shown in my sent messages folder. Can you let me know if you received it.

P.j.

[pwaldron]

PMs on this forum stay in the outbox until they are read by the addressee, and then move to Sent - I have one in my outbox for several years as the addressee has apparently never come back to the forum. Thanks again! \pw

[smcarberry]

Paddy,

I have tried three emails this past week and a PM via this Forum, apparently without successfully reaching you. I made two pdf files of the info I culled on Brew in the locations you are researching - those are attached.

Here are two further comments, that were in the attempted emails:
The link to a court decision on Scott v. Scott; it contains detailed background on the Cahircon property, although with no mention of any Brew: http://tinyurl.com/8wnlwu7

Suggested for further research:
Index to biographical notices in the newspapers of Limerick, Ennis, Clonmel and Waterford, 1758-1821
by Rosemary ffolliott

posted by Sharon Carberry

[jbrewtsuengr]

Does anyone have any information about my Brew ancestors, I'm a little skeptical about the first two Thomas Brew's, but here is what I have for now, from oldest to most recent.

Thomas Brew (born 1765) married Mary O'Dea.
Son Thomas Brew (born 1795) married Eleanor O'Gorman
Their son, James O'Gorman Brew (born 1833) married Dorothy Quinlan.
I know that my great grandfather, Thaddeus Aloysius Brew was born in the U.S. in 1875. Can any of you help me find out when James & "Dora" Brew migrated to the U.S.? Or can you help confirm the Thomas Brew's? I cant find anything further back than Thomas Brew and Mary O'Dea.

Thanks.

[pwaldron]

Miriam Scahill just alerted me to another reference to Bouchier [sic] Brew, presumably ancestor of the Michael Brew (Boucher) of Griffith's Valuation.

http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclar ... y_odea.htm says that the orphaned Fanny O'Dea, "who was then aged four, was cared for by an aunt who was married to a protestant called Bouchier Brew in Kilrush."

The family tree painted on the wall of Fanny O'Dea's pub says that the eponymous ancestor was married in 1790, so she was presumably orphaned some time around the 1770s.

The Boucher Brew, mentioned in some of the links above posted by Sharon Carberry, who was Colonel Vandeleur's land agent at the time of the 1852 election, was presumably a younger man than the (near) namesake who cared for the orphaned Fanny O'Dea up to 80 years earlier. Alternatively, the date on the O'Dea family tree could be wrong.

The previous poster refers to another Brew-O'Dea connection.

Much later (22 Feb 1870), Michael O'Dea, a grocer and provision merchant in Kilrush, married Bridget Brew, who was a granddaughter of one of the many Michael Brews.