Hi Sheila,
Thanks very much for answering my questions on Griffith's Valuation maps. With my second attempt at using the maps it was easy to find Uggoon and Glandree. It did take a minute to find Plot 47 the home of Andrew McNamara (son of Andrew Sheady McNamara) who we think was killed on the road by his horse in 1904. Plot 47 was not where I thought it should be; there appears to be no rhyme or reason to the numbering on Griffiths maps. There weren't many roads through the area in 1855, but many enclosures for a horse to escape from.
Now about this Mary McNamara of Uggoon who in 1853 married John Russell, Uggoon; witnesses: Matthew McNamara, Uggoon and Judy McNamara, Uggoon. You "strongly suspect she is a daughter of Andrew McNamara and Bridget McNamara in Uggoon, and that her
baptism went unrecorded". Back in May 2018 in the early days of the search for the missing Thomas McNamara of Glandree, you listed out all the McNamara's in the 1901 Census that could not be accounted for in the Tulla baptism records. Only 4 out of 9 could be accounted for at that time, and your conclusion was "unrecorded baptisms". But since that time, I believe we have accounted for all 9 out of 9, but it certainly seems like 50 out of 50!
Through your wonderful transcriptions and assistance in the ongoing search for the missing Thomas McNamara of Glandree, I have arrived at very different observations with regards to the Tulla sacramental registers. The below list of 6 observations are just my opinion, it would take too much discussion for these to become generally accepted ancestry principles for Tulla Parish:
R1: The Tulla Parish baptism and marriage registers are complete, but naming is not always accurate. There is no evidence that Tulla parents did not baptize their children or priests did not record their names in the register. But you must take into account the missing baptism pages from March 1822 to September 1825; May to July 1841; January to March 1843.
R2: Women of Tulla Parish married young, typically at 19 years of age.
R3: Tulla parents had children over a two decade period. If there are any large periods with no births, double check the baptism register (sorted both by father & mother) for variations in spelling. For example, McNamara could be MacNamara, Mack, Mac and Sheedy. Minogue could be Monahan etc.
R4: If a Tulla married couple had children over a less than two decade period, look for a widow/widower marriage (although not listed as such) in the Tulla Parish marriage register. Timing of this second marriage would be just a few years after the birth of the youngest child.
R5: The priests accuracy level for writing forenames in the sacramental registers is far greater for the men than the women. A bride named "Johanna" in the marriage register might be recorded as a mother named "Mary" in the baptism register.
R6: Given the missing baptism pages & frequent naming issues, it is best to research all the families in the same townland with the same surname to arrive at accurate conclusions on who is who. Griffith's Valuation and death records are also essential in determining family relationships.
So let's test out the above principles with the family of Andrew McNamara and Bridget McNamara of Glandree/Uggoon. And I must admit I made a mistake about this family; they appear to have had 12 children and not 11 as I earlier reported. Sheila, how do we get from the 7 children that you listed to a new total of 12 children?
Child #8: Andrew and Bridget McNamara had children between 1819 and 1836 in the Tulla baptism register which starts in 1819. This is a 17 year period, 3 years short of two decades (R3). Thank you Sheila for obtaining the death record for Bridget McNamara of Uggoon who died 1883, Uggoon, farmer’s widow, aged 90. So Bridget was born about 1793. Was her son John born in 1819 her first child? This would indicate that she might have married at age 25, and not at age 19 (R2). Let's assume Bridget married at age 19, about 1812. She would have had a child born about 1813 to 1815. This child born prior to the Tulla baptism register would appear in the marriage register 19 years later. Scan the Tulla marriage register around 1834 for a McNamara marriage with a residence of Uggoon and ... Bingo!
Mary McNamara of Uggoon married Corney McGrath of Liskennee on 14 February 1836; witnesses Andrew McNamara of Uggoon and Michael McNamara of Glandree.
Connor/Cornelius McGrath and Mary McNamara had 10 children born in Tulla Parish over a two decade period (R3) with a residence of Drumbonniv (sp? with variations): The names of the baptism sponsors might sound familiar:
1) 1836, Patt McGrath; sponsors Matt and Cath McNamara
2) 1839, Dan McGrath; Kitty Riordan
3) 1840, James McGrath; Tom McGrath, Mary McGrath
4) 1844, John McGrath; Bid Mack
5) 1846, Cornelius McGrath; Mary Gavin
6) 1848, Mary McGrath; Kate McGrath
7) 1850, Kate McGrath; Mary Howard, Mack
8 ) 1852, Margaret McGrath; Thomas Howard, Margaret Howard
9) 1853, Michael McGrath; Matthew McNamara, Bridget McGrath
10) 1858, Michael McGrath; Daniel Reddan, Bridget McNamara
The gap between 1840 and 1844, is likely due to a birth(s) during the missing baptism periods of May through July 1841; and/or January through March 1843. To provide evidence of this, repeat this exercise by checking the marriage register 19 year later for a McGrath marriage. So it is possible that Mary McGrath had 12 children, the same as her mother Bridget McNamara.
The residence on the baptism records is difficult to read but looks like "Drumbonniv" (Crusheen Parish), but is more likely somewhere around Ballyblood in Tulla. "Cornelius" is a great name. In the 1901 Census in House 21 in Ballyblood (south of Glandree) is Patrick McGrath (age 64), who named his eldest son Cornelius after his own father. He is also living with his 84 year old mother Mary (McNamara) McGrath. So Mary McNamara was born about 1817, and married in 1836, at the age of 19 (R2). Was this Mary their first born child, I have my doubts.
Child #9: In my initial listing I appear to have only searched by the father "Andrew McNamara" and missed this birth (see R3 above):
Andrew Mac born to Andrew Mac and Bridget Mac of Uggoon on 12 August 1828, witnesses Michael Sheedy and Mary Pepper.
Child #10: same mistake (R3) as above.
Miles Mac born to Andy Mac and Bridget Mac of Glandree on 21 March 1831, witnesses Peter Lillis, Sally Cavana
Child #11: Matthew McNamara died in 1894 at age of 70, thus born in the missing baptism period of 1824. Evidence: transfer of lease from father Andrew; appears on sister Mary McNamara McGrath's baptism records of her children; wife Anne Halpin McNamara was informant on mother Bridget McNamara death record in 1883; named one son Andrew, although not his first born.
Child #12: Michael McNamara died 1889 at age of 64, thus born in the missing baptism period of 1825. Named first born son Andrew. Two brothers married two sisters; appear on each baptism & marriage records.
For Matthew and Michael not to be the children of Andrew McNamara and Bridget McNamara would mean that their parents went from June 1821 through August 1828 without having a child. Highly unlikely.
To answer your other question on who could be the Mary McNamara of Uggoon who married John Russell in 1853, witnesses: Matthew McNamara and Judy McNamara both of Uggoon? She likely married at age 19, so born around 1834? There are two choices found in the Tulla baptism records:
1) Mary McNamara born to Patt McNamara and Mary Hogan of Uggoon on 15 August 1832. A twin, this child may have died as another "Mary" was born in 1837. But possibly the priest could have messed up the names (R5)?
2) Mary McNamara born to John McNamara and Nelly McNamara of Uggoon on 27 February 1828.
Sheila, you'd have to research both these McNamara families of Uggoon (R6) further before coming to the conclusion that her parents were Andrew McNamara and Bridget McNamara of Uggoon and she was born in 1834 (which is a physical possibility) and that there is a missing baptism record. Or could "Mary" McNamara have actually been "Bridget" McNamara born in March 1833 to Andrew and Bridget McNamara? There is far more evidence of priests writing incorrect names for the women (R5) than missing baptism records.
And I notice above the use of "Sheedy" in the baptism records as sponsors, this appears even more commonly than the McNamara's being reported as Sheedy as parents.